Shinn Asuka ([info]shinnanigans) wrote,
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[SEED]: An Essay on Meer Campbell.

I don’t know why I feel compelled to write this. Maybe because I need to get some thoughts together on Meer? Maybe because I’m irritated with the latest “interview”? Maybe because I think Meer just needs some love and attention?

Maybe because Meer bashing and cheap shots at the girl frustrate me even more than Shinn bashing and Cagalli bashing and Jona bashing and everyone bashing put together.

Through the Looking Glass: Behind a “False Reflection.”

On The Surface.

The image that most of us are clinging to, I think, is Meer’s stage persona: a ditzy, energetic girl with inflated ego and cleavage who prances around in a bathing suit and creeps into Athrun’s bed, considering this to be perfectly normal behavior for a fiancée. Let’s run Meer through:

- She shows up onstage, dressed distinctly un-Lacusly, but still acting like Lacus from a distance.
- She fangirls Athrun shamelessly. She doesn’t have that same easy grace that Lacus does, and chatters earnestly at Athrun in a way that even Suit CD Lacus never did. She pesters him about Lacus and is not as perceptive as her idol, nor is she as self-reliant and secure.
- She beams and gasps fangirlishly as Athrun resumes a position in FAITH.
- She reappears onstage. Performing live, she’s nothing like Lacus – she is much more visually oriented. She seems to be enjoying herself.
- She appears onstage again. More special effects.
- She runs up to Athrun happily, with more fangirlisms, clinging. She amuses herself with Haro while Dullindal and Athrun talk.
- She shows up in Athrun’s bed, complete with skimpy nightdress. She believes that this is how fiancées act, right? She acts, alright, bitchily to Lunamaria, slamming the door in the girl’s face.
- She is polite to Heine.
- She has to be shoved onto her shuttle by Athrun, still attempting to “correct” his un-fiancee-ish behavior.
- She wonders where all her fanboys are at the shuttleport, is furious that someone has impersonated her and stolen her shuttle.
- She reappears in Dullindal’s speech, obviously in a coached position. Interestingly, here, she speaks with great conviction: even if she’s not saying something that Lacus would, she, in her concern for people, speaks very strongly.
- She flops over after the speech, apparently exhausted.
- She is at Dullindal’s side as he presents Destiny and Legend to Shinn and Athrun. Her expressions here are interesting: she stops looking so mindless and shows some worry, sadness, shock, perhaps responding to Athrun’s hostility.
- She eavesdrops on Dullindal and Rey’s conversation about knocking Athrun off, tells Athrun to leave and, initially, goes with him, then refuses to go any further.
- She mopes around (in an office? Closet?), listening for progress on what’s going on with Athrun. She is obviously genuinely distressed when she finds out that his ZAKU has gone down.
- She is seen sitting sadly in a hotel room, watching the coverage of Operation Ragnarok.

The bulk of her screentime, Meer is prancing around in her skimpy outfit, ditzing to Athrun, acting a touch nastily to Lunamaria… but, then again, for most of SEED, Rau le Creuset acted sane. Let’s look a bit deeper.

Meer Campbell.

Why is Meer dressing up like this? Not because she wants to molest Athrun, or because she wants to dance around in tiny clothes. In her dinner with Athrun, she tells us that she’s doing it because she’s never needed, and she’s been offered the opportunity to make a difference.

“He told me ‘Right now I need your ability for the sake of PLANT right now.’ That’s why!”

“It’s not your ability that we need. It’s Lacus’s.”

(Sadder.) “That’s true, but right now… no, it’s not just now. Lacus-san is always needed by everyone. She’s strong, beautiful, and kind. I’m never needed by anyone.” (Putting on a bright smile.) “So I don’t mind if it’s just for now. If I can help the Chairman and everyone else in place of Lacus-san, who isn’t here right now… Then that alone makes me happy!”


Meer wants to be liked. She wants to be needed. She doesn’t want to be ignored, and she wants to make people happy. Meer is delighted when Athrun tells her that her performance was almost identical to the real Lacus – it means that she’s doing something useful right. That is her motivation. That is Meer Campbell underneath the outfit and the performances.

An Artificial Lacus.

So, Meer begins to act like Lacus. She seems to have a fairly skewed idea of Lacus is, and is patently misguided, but she means well. Bear in mind that her Athrun-stalkerage does seems to be born of a belief that this is how Lacus, as a fiancée ought to act, and we reach a reasonable jumping off point to assume that most of her new persona is a mask she’s putting on, and that many of her new habits are assumed because she believes that’s what makes people happy, and that’s how she needs to act to fulfill Lacus’s roles. (And really: she’s probably getting positive feedback for acting this way – masses cheering for genki genki Lacus-sama, posters of her in “that outfit” in demand by ZAFT mechanics, etc. Face it: Athrun’s probably the only person who’s expressed any disapproval about how she’s acting)

To see how much of this is artificial, let’s look at Meer in the past and at her most distressed. In the brief shot of pre-surgery Meer, is she wearing, say, a strappy, slutty concoction? No. She’s reasonably (if hideously, IMHO) dressed. If this is how she dresses before her transformation, is the buttfloss outfit her own idea? Probably not. For me, this puts a crack in the skanky-mask she’s put on. More likely than not, she’s had someone else make decisions for her about what she’s going to wear, and someone else has sculpted that element of her persona. So: how much of this new Lacus has been created by someone else? How much of it is Meer’s idea, and how much of it is Dullindal’s PR herd creating someone who, erm, motivates young male soldiers?

Well, then, how much of it has sunk into Meer? She is determined to be helpful and make people happy. What makes people happy? Images of her waving, encouraging, being cheerful, being energetic, smiling – being, really, something bright and chipper in the middle of an angsty Gundam war. Energetic as she is when we first meet her, she isn’t really so over-the-top until she’s been on her concert tour for a while, and she’s had so much fan encouragement for her behavior. Because people need her, she’s willing to take on another personality – to be Lacus, because she’s not needed, but this other person is.

This, I believe, is what leads her to act as she does towards Athrun. She isn’t naturally inclined to do things like latch onto him so much as she does in episodes 19 and 21 (her approach is much more cheerful and less physical, IMHO, in her first appearance), but has been encouraged to do so by the understanding – no doubt encouraged by the PR flock – that this is what will make people happy.

“I Prefer Lacus.”

Every little girl dreams of being a princess when she grows up, and Meer Campbell takes the chance when Dullindal offers it to her. To Meer, despite some fans’ convictions, the chance to become Lacus is not about acting like a slut on television: she is acting on the truly noble impulse of wanting to help, and the slightly less noble impulse of being needed, respected, and necessary.

The fact that her overriding impulse is to help people can be seen when she goes to try to bail out Athrun after overhearing Rey and Dullindal’s conversation about how yeah, they probably need to take him out of the picture. Her first move? Go to Athrun, try to set things straight. This impulse to help, however, is what keeps her tied to Dullindal.

“I-I’m Lacus!”

“Meer—”

“No! I’m Lacus! I’m Lacus, okay?! I prefer Lacus!”


She flashes to an image of being cheered on by adoring fans – to being needed. Why does she prefer Lacus? Not for some stupid, petty reason. She prefers being Lacus because it makes people like her, because it makes people need her, and because she can do something! That’s the sort of empowerment she gets out of being Lacus – being a somebody! Being something! Who wouldn’t prefer that? It’s not about being petty or being a slut – it’s about doing something with herself!

At the same time, she hasn’t lost her humanity. She isn’t just Dullindal’s lapdog (it should be obvious enough when she goes to Athrun that she does have some willpower, and that she can take steps to protect the people she’s come to care about). And, of course, she cries when she finds out that Athrun’s dead. No: it isn’t good enough that it was “for the ZAFT;” Meer takes it rather personally.

Athrun’s “death,” however, seems to have genuinely rattled Meer. Where she once stood strong to cheer on soldiers and endorse military action against Logos, she’s very visibly shaken. She looks horribly depressed during Operation Ragnarok, visibly upset by the wide-scale death and carnage.

Just, perhaps, like Lacus.

Summary.

A quick summary and extrapolation:

- Meer Campbell is not a whore. It does not define her, and this aspect of her “personality” is a construct which, although she’s picked it up, she is probably more than capable of letting go. It is, by now, familiar, but it’s just a façade.
- Meer wants to help people, an extension of wanting to be needed… even if she doesn’t always go about it in the best of ways, she really does want to help. Moreover, Meer believes that she (as Lacus) is needed, and has a duty to help people.
- Meer is capable of independent action in the name of what she believes is right (Athrun).
- Meer is becoming increasingly disillusioned with the fighting that she once cheered on.

I would like to see, and believe that we may see, Meer take action on her own. She is upset with Dullindal’s orders to shoot down Athrun. She is upset with the fighting. She wants to be useful, and so… I believe she may try to use her influence to help in an Archangel-ish way, condemning the fighting. I would like to see Meer experiment: I believe that she is fully capable of it, and is gathering the motivation to do so as Athrun’s “death” and the Ragnarok carnage force her to reconsider her role in what’s going on.

Much of “Lacus Clyne” is an act, a mask that she believes necessary. Occasionally, we see her break that always-happy mask for personal gain or shock – her catty smile as she slams Lunamaria away, her distress at Athrun. There is a Meer Campbell beyond “Dullindal’s ho lolz she suks” – one who, while she may be a bit petty in some cases, means well, and means something other than big boobs.

Briefly, let me conclude with what I see as Meer’s main faces:

- Meer Campbell. This is the smiling, generally sweet, ordinary, and determined girl we first meet. She wants to be helpful, isn’t sure if she can do it, but wants to try! This Meer cares about things. She has personal causes and has emotional investments in individuals (ex. Athrun). She can get upset or petty – “Someone stole my shuttle?!” “I’m sorry, but Athrun will come to breakfast with me” – but really has one positive motivator: lending a helping hand.
- Stage Lacus. Stage Lacus gives Meer her bad name, but she keeps up this genki genki act. There isn’t much to Stage Lacus, because Stage Lacus is only skin deep… but, unfortunately, many people only see Stage Lacus.

Meer Campbell, perhaps, suffers from the unique disease of being “realistic,” and having multiple sides. It’s time for people to stop seeing just one aspect of Meer Campbell. If you think she’s just a slut, you’re ignoring massive amounts of characterization. If you don’t believe she has a personality, you’re ignoring massive amounts of characterization. If you’ve come to the conclusion that Meer is useless, you're ignoring massive amounts of characterization. If you’re convinced that she’s brainless, you’re not even watching the same series that I am.

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[info]semecucumber

August 2 2005, 22:51:31 UTC 6 years ago

Thank you *gives cookie and Meer love*

[info]tatooine

August 2 2005, 23:42:37 UTC 6 years ago

Eheh, thank you!

I guess this essay was sort of to draw out the Meer love, and there's enough of it coming that I'm happy.

[info]ex_gaignun

August 2 2005, 23:08:30 UTC 6 years ago

Thank you. I have liked Meer since the beginning, and unlike this fandom, have not forgotten where we get to learn more about her and why she's doing what she's doing. But one sign of anger (read: "where is everyone?" and stuff like that) and she's a horrible horrible character who is a slut who wants to get into Athrun's pants. =| How about no, I don't think so.

I wasn't happy with any of those interview things, but I'm sure they're fake since the ending and such big events wouldn't just be thrown out like that. I think most of the Destiny character are being underdeveloped or pushed aside or randomly killed off (I love Jona when he showed potential of being a slick guy, so I was angry when they just relented to the AthCaga fans to make him a characterless pansyass when he showed so much potential in the beginning -_-), so I don't want what the interview said to happen to Meer. :/ Unless "useless" meant she does something, and then steps down as Lacus after that since she shows herself again, but not just randomly like... not showing her or just killing her off the moment the real Lacus comes, that would just be sad. Useless in this case, can technically mean useless to motivate people since she'd be found out to be fake, but if they mean useless as a character, then... yeah. >_>; I'm a Destiny optimist and I can honestly say those "interview" answers hold good calling to want to not bother as much as I am anymore, and that's saying something. But in short, Meer is one of my favorite characters so far, so you make a good point with this.

The sad part is, most people still won't get it even after reading this.

[info]tatooine

August 2 2005, 23:49:40 UTC 6 years ago

I don't remember having much of an opinion about Meer until I started with her at [info]campfuckudie -- I don't remember ever hating her, because I was never a super-big fan of Lacus, and I didn't get protective of the pink-hair-and-a-Haro gig, but I didn't particularly like her. But after a while -- and after she had her break-down with Athrun -- I started trying to figure her out, and this is what I got. And when I redownloaded her dinner with Athrun and paid attention, I actually saw Meer, and that's where I saw a character worth defending, and that's where I got the backdrop for her closet-emo later -- not as someone just moping, but about someone being miserable that she couldn't make a difference.

I wouldn't mind if she became useless to Dullindal, but she has so much power right now that she can make the differences that she wants, if she puts her mind to it! I think that she's coming around and that, with the right prodding, she can become a SEED heroine as much as Natarle or Fllay.

[info]snapple

6 years ago

[info]cagallizala

August 2 2005, 23:27:38 UTC 6 years ago

...

I love you. *____*

[info]tatooine

August 2 2005, 23:54:09 UTC 6 years ago

And I love anyone who likes Meer. :D

[info]after_tears

August 2 2005, 23:29:10 UTC 6 years ago

I, LOVE YOU for writing this. Never have I been so proud to use this icon of mine before. Never have I been so proud to have doodled this Meer. Man, you inspire me to do more Meer art. Being a Meer fan myself, I agree with everything you've said, and am so glad somebody finally took the time to write all of this up. (I'm ashamed...) I wish more people would read this. Maybe I'll pimp it to those people who hate Meer. ;;;; Thank you so much for this entry.

[info]tatooine

August 3 2005, 00:01:11 UTC 6 years ago

Aw, man, we should all be proud of actually reading between the lines and liking the character. Saying "I like Meer" shouldn't be strange at all -- she's just as well-intentioned as any of the other characters, and just happens to, unlike the rest of them, actually not be a flawless character capable of doing it all.

[info]teletha

August 2 2005, 23:38:40 UTC 6 years ago

Nice essay. I'm not going to push the blame all on one fandom (Asucaga fans aren't the root of all female character bashing) but it would be better if people would understand her more. But I like much like characters like Fllay, there is going to be some people who simply don't like her. While I can understand that, I do wish they would try to get to know more about her before they call her a slut. o_o

Oh noes! Not a realistic non perfect character, whatever shall we do? :p I love everyone in GSD, but I do have a special place in my heart for the screw ups (Shinn, Athrun, Meer....). ^^

I don't expect Meer to have a happy ending, but I do want her to know Athrun is alive (come on how can anyone say she doesn't feel something for him now?) and maybe in the end be able to deliver a blow to Gilbert and hopefully be happy with herself, not as Lacus but as Meer. She has a lot more power then she realizes. I hope she gets to use it.

[info]tatooine

August 3 2005, 00:07:49 UTC 6 years ago

Oh, I don't think it's necessarily the AsuCaga fandom -- I mean, if it was all "lolz u split up assram nd cagalli" then Lunamaria would have the same fandom hate as Meer, and I think Luna gets a bit less bitchiness -- but there's so much... misunderstanding? Something. I just don't think the sluttiness is really Meer at all -- it's just her being pushed in one direction.

The fuck-ups are the best. Sweet as Kira and Lacus are, I like Shinn, Meer, and Athrun for screwing up.

I don't know what I'm hoping for, with Meer. I'd like her to try to do something -- I'd like her to step out and be a powerful character in any direction. But... it all depends how the dominos fall around her.

[info]chastity_rowan

August 3 2005, 00:15:33 UTC 6 years ago

Good essay ^_^

Although frankly I have my other reasons for not liking her and it has something to do with that personality of hers I acknowledge The whole series itself has something to do with my dislike for her in general.

[info]shinnanigans

August 3 2005, 01:47:13 UTC 6 years ago

Mm, I can understand that. This essay was just trying to figure out where her personality was coming from. Justifying her behavior... would be much more difficult. :D

[info]snapple

August 3 2005, 00:40:53 UTC 6 years ago

Awesome. I hope you don't mind, but I posted this in the Meer section of g-seed forums. She needed some appreciation. ^^

Awesome work. And if it's okay....I'd like to request a character essay about Cagalli. The bashing is finally getting to me. As well as the fickle fans who actually like her again now that she's gone kick ass. While she has improved, I have loved her character through the whole spance of Destiny. I hope you'll take that into consideration while deciding whether to write one on her.

[info]shinnanigans

August 3 2005, 01:46:18 UTC 6 years ago

Ah, thanks!

Unfortunately, I don't really have the time to do one for Cagalli -- particularly since she gets so much more screentime than Meer (so I'd have to do more research -- I've already jotted down most of Meer's conversations, since she has so few. Cagalli would be almost impossible to do), and I haven't actually thought about it before. If I had the time for another essay, I'd probably do it on Shinn, too, because he and Meer are nearest and dearest to my heart right now.

[info]smshadow

August 3 2005, 01:13:02 UTC 6 years ago

Less character hate... more recap episode hate. I dont see enough people displeased with episode 41 as I see hating on insertnamehere.

[info]shinnanigans

August 3 2005, 01:44:37 UTC 6 years ago

I rather liked the recaps. Good perspectives from Athrun and Kira, solidified characterization from both.

[info]smshadow

6 years ago

[info]festivewind

August 3 2005, 01:18:17 UTC 6 years ago

*nods nods*
to tell you the truth, I was the one who's not comfortable about Meer's existence (because I thought she's a clone made by Dullindal, literally), well until the part where Athrun escapes and they showed us some images of her past.
I pity her.

She reminds me somewhat to Fllay (with the fan bashing and stuffs). I hated Fllay too, until she somewhat became my favorite female character in SEED-dom. XD

And, that was a wonderful essay. That brings me to more new prespectives about Meer.

[info]shinnanigans

August 3 2005, 01:43:35 UTC 6 years ago

Since I picked up SEED as Destiny was starting, I didn't catch the Fllay-bashing back when Fllay was, well, Fllay. But with Meer... she's a real person, and she deserves respect and pity. But not some of the trash I've seen up.

[info]artemis_obscure

August 3 2005, 01:23:29 UTC 6 years ago

I'm not a huge fan of Meer, but if you keep this up, I might even begin to actually start really liking her.

Good stuff you have there.

[info]shinnanigans

August 3 2005, 01:37:53 UTC 6 years ago

What I'm hoping to do is to get people to try looking at her through a new lens -- under all her undeniably spazzy ho-ness is a very real person with a genuinely good driving force -- she's misguided and easily manipulated, but not actually a bad person. So, no matter what she does... she's not doing it because she's a slut, or because she's an attention whore. And I think that if people see her as acting good-intentionedly... they can think of her as a better person.

I'm not even saying you should be a huge fan of her -- I mean, I'm not a stunning fan of Kira, even though he's well-intentioned and everything -- but there are some things I've seen mentioned in the fandom that set my teeth on edge, so I wanted to address some of those issues. :D

[info]windtear

August 3 2005, 01:34:42 UTC 6 years ago

WORD.

I built my opinion of Mia on that dinner - specifically, on her line "Nobody needs Mia, but everyone needs Lacus" - and I've always stuck to it. Everything she's done has only intensified that opinion.

The sneaking into Athrun's room - "Isn't this what a fiancee does?" she asks, and honestly, considering what fiancees in the movies and on TV do, I can see why she'd think that. The actions towards Lunamaria struck me as very much 'staking claim'. Many of Lunamaria's actions in Mia's presence were what girls do for boys they're attracted to, to get them to notice them. If Mia was rude to Luna, Luna had been rude to Mia as well, making a play for her boyfriend, so while Mia's reaction was a large one, I don't think it was unjustified or that over the top.

Basically, more than anything else, I feel sorry for Mia, and a bit angry too. She's caught thoroughly in a trap, and the only way to get out is to stand up and say "I'm not Lacus, I'm Mia!" But she has refused to do that.

When Lacus reveals herself, I am terribly afraid that Dullindal will say a word to Rey, and Rey will nod, load his gun, take Mia for a walk in a deserted area, and return alone. That, more than anything else, will be a tragedy. But, if Dullindal was prepared to assassinate the true Lacus, how much less compunction will he have for his doll?

[info]shinnanigans

August 3 2005, 01:42:18 UTC 6 years ago

For me, I didn't take much note of Meer during her dinner, so seeing that again was more "rediscovering" her and starting to see her as a better character, but aside from that, word, word, and oh my god, word.

Fortunately, we know that Meer'll be alive until at least episode 44 for her confrontation with Lacus. Beyond that, she has two paths: to go with Lacus as Meer, or to try to return to ZAFT as Lacus. If she stays Lacus, she's almost certain to kick the bucket. To give up being Lacus, I think, and to rebuild herself as someone that people really need for being herself, would be the biggest sacrifice Meer can make at this point, but it's the thing that'll keep her alive.

[info]sinfonia

August 3 2005, 01:42:58 UTC 6 years ago

Oh this is wonderful +.+

I have to admit, I really hated Meer until the episode Athrun Defects. I'd always thought of her as some kind of creepy, stalker who loves the fame of being 'Lacus.'

After the episode where we see a bit of her past I can see where she's coming from. This essay is wonderful~~ I hope it changes some opinions about Meer. (It made me think about her a bit more)

[info]shinnanigans

August 5 2005, 16:54:37 UTC 6 years ago

Just thinking about it is good enough!

Athrun Defects is really the episode that made me think, too. Before, I was perfectly willing to think of her as a ditzy, puppy-like fangirl (didn't think she was creepy, ever, just a bit anime-ish-ly over the top), but sobbing in the rain... yeah. Had to stop and rethink her after that, and once you've gotten something beyond "ditz," you can look back to past episodes and see her development.

[info]fanboyshaka

August 3 2005, 07:51:29 UTC 6 years ago

Neither a supporter of meer, nor a hater of meer, that i am. I do believe she's one of the deeper characters introduced in gsd. Even though she doesnt get uber screentime like shinn and luna and AA peeps. I do believe she does have depth and motivations. I agree with alot of what you see. I never thought of meer as a slut really, although by wearing what she does, durandil is clearly giving out the "Look at my big shaking boobs" message. I dont think meer really likes doing those things, like you said. But i believe she puts up with them for the attention she gets. After all, all humans are in fact attention whores, we strive for attention, maybe not from everyone but at least from a few people.Tis a basic part of human nature.

All in all, i liked the essay. Agreed with alot of what you said. And personally i do believe meer's character has depth within her and i can actually stand her character, more than i can stand some other ones, who remain nameless. ^_^ good job *gives thumbs up*

[info]shinnanigans

August 5 2005, 16:55:20 UTC 6 years ago

Heh, thanks! I'm glad to see someone who agrees!

[info]haro

August 3 2005, 07:58:51 UTC 6 years ago

I don't understand how someone could dislike Meer. She's not super-strong, nor is she a representation of virtue. But she's absolutely adorable and endearing. I look forward to all her appearances because she makes me smile.

Meer is most definitely my favorite new character for the "Destiny" series. She's utterly loveable, and I'm glad someone decided to take up her defense.

So yeah, a great big word. ^^

[info]shinnanigans

August 5 2005, 16:58:08 UTC 6 years ago

I can understand why people don't like her -- what we see as "adorible and endearing" is understandably "annoying" to others -- but when dislike stems from thinking of her as a one-dimensional slut... that's not cool at all.

[info]januaryseas

August 3 2005, 10:26:38 UTC 6 years ago

You probably need to make a Meer shrine and make everyone read this :D

Thank you for writing this.. ^^

[info]shinnanigans

August 5 2005, 16:59:36 UTC 6 years ago

Haha, there's already a really lovely Meer fanlisting here, and I'm no good with graphics or HTML...

You're welcome, though. ^^

[info]adorantis

August 3 2005, 12:16:21 UTC 6 years ago

Thank you, so much~. I've been getting so sick of all the 'She's a freak comments'. I've been liking her more and more, and most of the time when I tell people this they're like 'omgwtf she's stupid.' Somebody should make a Meer support banner, or something. I might, when I get home.

[info]shinnanigans

August 5 2005, 17:02:13 UTC 6 years ago

Right!

If you make a banner, I'll definitely put it up in a journal. ^^

[info]ariake

August 3 2005, 14:21:36 UTC 6 years ago

*grins* Thanks for writing this! I didnt love her to start with, but once you get into the series a bit, you find that she's just like you said, not just some slut paper figure to manipulated that everyone should hate. She's maybe a bit more human than some of the other characters that are found in Seed, since she does resemble what many people are (though not exactly XD). so thanks so much for writing this! *gives hugs*

[info]aestalitz

August 3 2005, 16:16:53 UTC 6 years ago

LJ still hates me, and I had to refresh this page like over ten times. X_xAhaha. I'm somewhat neutral towards Meer, because I don't hate her or anything, and although she's starting to grow on me, she isn't exactly a favourite character. :X Allow me to pointlessly babble.

Granted, I was one of those who was all, WTF is a Lacus clone clinging to Athrun in the OP? (yeah, I thought she was a clone too) but I guess that was because I was a big AsuCaga fan and there were those crazy rumours of AsuCaga breaking up blah blah. And then everybody and their mommy know how obsessed I am with AsuShin, so after a few epsiodes I wasn't that interested in AsuCaga anymore. The dinner in Phase-10 also changed my view of her, because it gives me the feeling that she's unwanted in the society, and the whole 'nobody needs me' thing. It makes me feel kind of sorry for her.

However, I was a little irritated with the whole Luna-Meer thing in Phase-19, because if Lacus was still Athrun's fiancee, wouldn't she be trying to steal Athrun away from Lacus? But less Athrun-fangirlism by Meer somewhat changed my view of her again (you see, if I like a guy, I won't go up to him and cling to him or something, because I'm way to shy for that X_x). Besides, she did warn Athrun about Gilly, and she is a character who cares about other people and isn't conceited or anything.

But if she gets killed off, that would suck, because that was such a quick ending for her. That would make her almost like the Druggies, to be in the show for a small purpose, and then get killed off later. D: And I think recap episodes were mentioned in some comments above? I used to like recap episodes, but too much of something isn't exactly a good thing (especially if they are aired before an episode you're waiting so badly for *coughPhase-41SF/IJandPhase-42AsuShincough*). But Phase-20 was a totally good recap ep, in my opinion, because it was totally in Shinn's POV and he somewhat gave reasons whay he felt that way, why he didn't understand why his family had to be killed etc. *pats the puppy*

You should totally write one for Shinn, dude. All I can do is just jump into his defense xD;; I thought I was the only Shinn fan in the GSD fandom since Phase-01 aired. Say, I going out-of-point. :O I'm not supposed to talk about Shinn, am I?

[info]mackenzierusty

August 3 2005, 18:55:35 UTC 6 years ago

*claps* Well said.

[info]dropsofgleam

August 4 2005, 16:11:53 UTC 6 years ago

There! Meer, my baby! My favorite GSD character!

* huggles Meer protectively and defends her from fanbrats *

Great, great essay. *bookmarks it *

[info]nayami

August 5 2005, 00:09:31 UTC 6 years ago

I am totally blown away by the scope and ambition of this essay. That said, I doubt I will ever get Meer, not so much because there's nothing to get but more towards the fact that I have general dislike of her type of character. I don't just limit my disinterest to this archtype in females, I don't like it in males either. (Kamui from X's slipping into this pattern is what led to my disrespect for him.) Never saw Meer as a whore, but more of a flake, a manipulated child. I have trouble appreciating characters who so willingly allow themselves to be puppets, regardless of their motivations. I like to see a bit of fight or some type of redeeming quality, otherwise my pity turns into anger. An unjust "Why can't you wake up?" if you will.

I don't expect perfection but I do like the ability to emphasize. I was once told in writing class that not all characters are meant to be emphasized with, and I fought it. That continues to be my problem in all fiction. It's probably why I can tolerate Meyrin (although all of her characterization was FORCED) and I get so frustrated with Lunamaria, who had her potential destroyed through random plot.

Nonetheless, this essay has given me much to think about as far as Meer is concerned, and I will make more effort to pay more attention to her scenes in the future. She may yet prove of interest to me.

[info]dilettantka

August 5 2005, 14:47:08 UTC 6 years ago

Damn near perfect essay, m'dear.


(Woot I'm finally hoooome)

[info]rampant_geekery

August 12 2005, 02:11:31 UTC 6 years ago

Excuse me while I weep, I would bear your child if I could.XD This kicks insane amounts of ass. About time someone wrote this.

[info]teeantsai

August 12 2005, 15:15:52 UTC 6 years ago

Hey, I don't mean to argue or anything, but I think this essay "might" be overflattering Meer's true self.

Very well written essay I must say, it speaks of the utter truth of the Meer situation. I completely agree with most things that you've said in this essay. And yes, up to this point, Meer hasn't done anything bad and in a way, she's been more of a...victim.
However, no one knows how Meer is going to react in the episode when the real Lacus shows up. Is Meer going to quietly step down and let the real Lacus take over? Or is Meer sinking too deeply into the "desire to be liked" and stand up against Lacus and act like she's the real Lacus?

Even if Meer got too greedy with fame and attention and decided to stand up against the real Lacus, I do believe she's justified, we're all greedy in our own way, it's only human =) But I'm sure it's going to give people more execuse bash Meer even more.

In my personal opinion, I can see myself disliking Meer if she becomes a spoiled brat and desperately hogs the position of being a Lacus replacement. Yes, it's only natural that she doesn't want to give up the attention, but I never liked people who're too greedy in the first place =/

But then again, she could be righteous and sincerely want the better good for the people, and step down from the position of Lacus.

But, has anyone thought of this:
Humans tend to make execuses to cover up their selfishness. They tend to make themself seem like they're doing a good thing when they're really just trying to satisfy their own desire. I'm not gonna lie, I do that here and there too. I get this impression that Meer isn't being Lacus because she genuinely cares about the people of plant. Afterall, (I could be just too skeptical about this) I don't believe a normal person would do something so great out of the motivation of "helping your own people" (Al Quedas are an exception) I feel as if that she became Lacus because she has idolized Lacus and wants to be needed for the most part. Doing it for the people of plant is just a very tiny portion for her to become Lacus.

By the way, I apologize if I'm too repetitive.
Basically, I just think we're giving her too much credit. Meer is a normal human who has her own desires and needs. I don't believe she's doing it to help the people of Plant, therefore, I think it's wrong to bash Meer, but also not right to give her so much credit.

[info]thousandbirds

November 23 2005, 04:46:09 UTC 6 years ago

....

Wow! Very well detail! I don't hate Meer anymore and I am trying to like and understand her more.
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